very similar to what it was in 2008. take a look at this. >> if you are willing to work with me. >> if you are willing to work even harder in this election. >> i promise. >> then i promise you. >> i promise you, change will come. >> the romney campaign and the rnc are determined to stay engaged during this convention. recalling what happened 8 years ago back in 2004 when the kerry campaign basically went dark and he went wind surfing during george bush's campaign. here is sean spicer a communication's chief for the rnc. >> they sat back and waited and obviously it didn't work out too well. we are going to make sure that we take advantage of every minute that we can be here in charlotte. >> to show just how powerful this bracketing is, shep, all democrats could talk about today is how they thought that americans were better off than they were four years ago. clearly thrown off message today, shep. >> shepard: forgot all about the wind surfing. that was quite a moment. john roberts with us. thanks. con convenient timing the debt