the president took agelast as president of the conference of mayors we passed the simpson bowles plan as a template for moving forward and the president has done the same. you talked about the republican convention. mr. ryan raised that as well. what he didn't say is he was a member of that commission and didn't vote for it. >> chris: i understand. it was the president's commission and he did nothing with it. >> what the president has done he is also cutting $4 trillion out of this deficit. now, he is not cutting -- >> chris: but in a way that republicans will never buy. the other plan had bipartisan support. >> he didn't have mr. ryan's support. and you are right, it it wasn't exactly reflective of mr.-- it did have republicans and it had democrats as well. not enough of them. it should have had a unanimous support for it as a frame work, not for everything in it. and what the president has done, he has adopted $4 trillion in deficit cuts over the next ten years. what he didn't do is he didn't want to cut defense as much and