not from the godfather. >> brian: the myth of the blond dumb woman has given way to the dumb male. every new series that comes out make men seem like detached -- >> gretchen: get over it. get over it. >> brian: i don't watch "everyone loves raymond." >> steve: that's off the air. >> brian: it's the same thing. the guy gets everything wrong and the woman screams at him all the show. am i right? >> gretchen: why are those popular? >> brian: mr. braidy was respected by florence henderson. >> gretchen: that was the '60s. by the way,. >> brian: that was the '70s. shirley jones never had a husband. >> gretchen: you had a bone to pick with mrs. henderson when she was here to begin with. you said alice should have done all the work. >> steve: that's true. >> brian: right. she did not do enough. i felt she could a done a lot more. i thought alice had a lot. plus she had the butcher.