chick-fil-a and their statements about being anti-gay and supported the family research council and that's what reports have said. and in those reports, they say that the family research council, which is a hate group, a certified hate group from the southern poverty law center. >> are the media treating this as a hate crime, judy. >> depends which media you're watching or reading. i mean, there were some networks, i bet, who are going to have a hard time figuring out which one, and begins with an m. and just didn't think it was worth covering at all. and i find that this kind of ignoring news is very troubling. >> and when you compare it to what happened, say in colorado or arizona, exactly, kim carney at the washington examiner tweeted out imagine what happened if it was a conservative shooting into a liberal group. days of news, and candlelight vigils and chin pulling of hate and violence and--