have been getting subsidies for years. >> we're ready to transition. >> john: tomorrow? >> can you give us a chance so that americans can have a choice as to what they put in their pump. >> john: by choice, government needs to pay to install the pumps. but government didn't install gasoline pumps, entrepreneurs did. >> service stations will do it. why the taxpayer? >> it's like anything else you have to get it started. >> you are parry ra site feeding on the taxpayer. stand on your own feet? >> we are ready to stand on our own feet but it needs a fair playing field. >> john: they want more subsidies when ethanol has received $50 billion and increases costs to food and isn't even better for the environment. >> corn ethanol is responsible