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like me like it and happy two or three days and then back to the same old romney campaign that won't work. this needs to be the first card that is being played in a veer reese of cards where he makes this a big campaign about the future. you have to embrace the choice. there is always a myth if you could just win a quote referendum on the last four years. voters know they are voting about the next four years and he has to clare tie what the choice is for the next four years. >> the real danger here, i agree with what bill saying, he starts looking like he is trying to back away from the ryan plan and there is signs he may be trying to do that, that starts now playing into the whole flip flopper and other things that people are -- attacks or people wondered about about romney. this pick could end up being devastating if he pulls back doesn't embrace this and really push forward it could be a big, big problem. >> and liz, you are shaking your head and senator bayh, you are nodding your head.

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