aclu says. they say you need the voter id and you never hear that in south carolina, for example, you can vote by absentee ballot without an id. >> absolutely. and of course absentee balloting is available in pennsylvania. i think what the aclu is doing is basically misreading the law. >> you know what you hear about voter fraud. we cover it all the time at fox newschannel with our investigations. and what do you say but it is a concoction of republicans trying to defeat the democrats and there is no voter fraud? >> there are several brave democrats who have stepped forward to counter that. they passed a photo id law last year and despite enormous pressure from the national party, former democratic congressman has blown the whistle saying the real voter suppression is when political machines steel votes from people trying to overthrow those machines and basically