one day conference, quarter of a million dollars. $104,000 to a consultant for one day. $20,000 spent on drumsticks. now there are 35,000 on picture frames. we think unfortunately they're dribbling this information out. first we saw las vegas. then we saw virginia. and now we're told there may be as many as more than 70 conferences we're going to have to look at. rick: talk to us about your investigators and the kind of cooperation they're getting from folks at the gsa. of course we've been talking about the investigation into the "fast and furious" program. we know that the cooperation there, the back and forth there has not been great between the justice department and the congressional investigators. have your investigators been able to get access to the information that they want to see in order to find out exactly what was going on? >> well the cooperation, now, remember we got rid of some of the people that were involved like neely and the