regulations that are called economic resignificant regulations, they cost the economy. >> john:. >> john: they admit that. >> the cost is over hundred million per regulation but the epa say the benefits are so great and reduction in future healthcare costs to people, but there is no way to prove that. the costs are real but the benefits are unknown. yet these people are out of work we still have a long period of unemployment in this country and people are getting sick because they can't get back to work. >> john: they say the benefits of avoiding early death preventing heart attacks and asthma far exceed the costs of implementing clean air rules. >> that is their made up numbers. people sitting behind their computer screens hoe are fixated