what he actually said. but the reality is barack obama has -- the tax cut increases he has proposed according to ernst & young are going to hit 2.1 million business openers and they're going to kill 710,000 american jobs. this is a man who has presided over the weakest, longest period of sustained high unemployment since the great depression, and he wants toraise taxes on job creators. >> are you know what i -- can i -- megyn: quickly, julie. >> can i just get in on this? look, barack obama was not there in 2008 when the economy collapsed, george bush was. >> oh, stop talking about george bush. >> i'm not talking -- excuse me, you're blaming barack obama for something that is not his fault. >> he's the president. >> he's the president today. he was not handed a cadillac economy like bush was. he was handed a dump economy, tu guys don't want to acknowledge despite your job creation rhetoric, there has been no jobs created -- megyn: we've got to make that the last word.