i mean we know him very well and that's a lot of pressure to put on somebody. the way i look at it is michael walks away from this olympics with medals in his hands it was a great olympics for him. i mean, that's kind of. >> bill: got to get three to beat i think that's very doable for him. it's not practical to think that he is going to repeat 2008 how do you see it dara with phelps. >> i think ryan lot can i lock can i a run for his money. he will definitely break that record. >> bill: who is holding the record? i should know it it's right on the tip of my tongue. who holds the weapon? >> i should know, too. >> bill: mark spits has it. >> is it? i'm 87 years old and falling apart here. i tried to qualify for the