number one, in most of the mass murders we see that they are either shot by the police, that they shoot themselves or that there is, you know, an attempt on the part of the defendant to escape. this guy surrendered like a coward even though he had on ballistic leggings and a throat protector and groin protector. why did he wimp out at the end? what does that tell you? >> because he ising. >> to bask in the lime light whenever anybody goes to the movie "the dark knight rises" he will be remembered as the colorado shooting. he is now in celebrity in his mind and i wouldn't be surprised if he continues to act that way. >> and judge, you have to realize there is excitement at every phase of a crime. certainly like this. thinking about about it. fantastic sizing about it. excitement en route to the crime. preparing for it. committing it and then in the publicity thereafter. >> absolutely. i think i definitely agree this man is now a celebrity and i