mistake. >> eight years to file an appeal? >> you don't want to make a mistake. a man's life is at stake jie. of course -- >> of course it is. >> he is convicted of taking a life, i understand that. but we as a society don't want to be like him, do we? >> no, michael you and i know you have to take eight years for an appeal? >> it could be probably 12 more years before they carry out the sentence if they do that. eight years is a drop in the bucket. >> to me eight years is unacceptable. how does this guy spend his day, do you know? >> i do. he spends about five hours out of his cell. the rest of the day he spends in a single cell doing whatever he wants. watching television, reading, doing whatever. the extra five hours he can go out and play basketball, exercise, play board games