time for their flight, they're okay. isn't that part of the problem? >> i think it is. and can, you know, that's kind of one of the luxury luxuries and one of the benefits of our system today is where pilots can live in less expensive areas. a lot of these carriers are based in big cities, you know, san francisco, new york, chicago. the cost of living's pretty high, and a lot of pilots aren't making a lot of money, so they do have the alternative to be flying from other locales. but for some of those folks who are flying cross country or flying overnight flights, that's a big problem. again, same problem we saw in the flight last year, arrived first thing in the morning and didn't fly until 9:00 that night. that's not a good recipe there. but i think these new rules do take into account some of what they call deadheading or transportation time when they are just passengers flying on the plane. jon: scott brenner, good to have your expertise. thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: after a serious of attack -- series of attacks on