rates will automatically go up unless congress and the president stop it from happening. that's what we are asking to happen -- don't let the taxes go up, mr. president. that will hurt american families and jobs and american competitors, don't allow the tax rates to go up on anybody. by the way, what he is proposing is not marginal rates, but the death tax. so if -- if you are the child, have you a brother and sister and your dad owns a plumbing business and he dies, you are faced, underwent his proposal with a 45% tax rate on the income subject to the death tax, in other words what the value of that business is, minus the exemption, 45% tax rate -- is that fair? >> greta: a couple of issues. one is the impact and doesn't have, the proposal on the economy. and business owners. the other is whether or not the iniosed rev new and taxes for people making over $250,000 a year, whether that would have a significant dent in handling our