and forth or jumped up in and down. how would you describe what was done in that boat? >> we tried rocking it. one of them was standing -- one person was standing up and another person was kneeling. i was the person kneeling, and we were trying to show what was the boya buoyancy. we were directed to realize the boat was not in the water and the situation, the reaction would be different. we took that into account. we said that we understood that. we acknowledged that. >> rocking the boat, does that alone give scott peterson a shot at a new trial? our legal panelist is here. jim, as a former prosecutor, your thoughts about the fact that the jurors were allowed to get into the -- into this boat on a trailer in a garage during deliberations, you're shaking your head. >> yeah. you and i were there, greta, and