eight years, this is a problem on appeal. it's new evidence. the defense didn't get to watch it happened. and defense attorney mark geragos asked to rebut it, and he was refused that request. on appeal, this is a live issue. unless it's harmless error, this could set scott peterson free, at least for a new trial. >> all right, bernie, if it is accepted as a valuable piece of evidence, how long does the process take, for the judge to get through it, consider the objections? >> sure. the state gets to file a reply brief to this brief, and then the petitioner, scott peterson, then gets to file another brief, a reply. jim would know how far the argument would be better. if i was scott peterson, these two jurors could have punched his tickets -- how do you get in a trailer that's in a garage to check buoyancesy. you can't check buoyancy on land, can you? >> if i was the defense