one's political activity is crazy. it's ludicrous. it's not only non-catholic, non-christian, non-biblical, it's also unamerican. you're a better historian than i am, bill. you know that every great movement in american history has been driven by people of religious conviction. and if we duct tape the churches. i'm just not talking about the catholic church. if we duct tape the role of religion and the churches and morally convince people in the marketplace, that's going to lead to a huge deficit, the huge void and there i are many people who want to fill it up. which would be as doctrine narrow and consider itself as infallible as they caricature the other religions doing. so to see that morally driven, religiously convinced people want to exercise their political responsibility, ily think that is not only at the heart of biblical religion, the at the heart of american enterprise. >> i want to get into one more