of people over the edge? >> he has indicated that is the reason why he was suicidal, i agree it does cast problems on the credibility. >> we don't know what forensics they have. they are not going to talk about forensics. >> judge jeanine: back to the savio case doctor. this issue of her being determined to be the victim of an accidental drowning now the victim of a homicide. have you ever seen this play out in a courtroom? >> i have and it becomes people like me lined up to testify. >> judge jeanine: battle of experts. >> hopefully it comes down to common sense. you don't have to be an expert to look at that tub and say that can happen. you don't end up in a nice neat pack damage in the tub. >> judge jeanine: what position would you be in if you slipped and fell? >> most adults would fall backwards there's a wall the side of a tub. >> here's the issue even if