transparent. didn't the president promise transparency? >> sure, absolutely. this is a serious issue. i'm not saying that holder -- >> sean: the americans that are dead, don't they have the right to know if the government provided the weapons to kill them? >> they have a right to a proper investigation. just because darrell issa -- we are talking about years and years of guns going back and forth over the border. many people dying. >> sean: i can never think of a time where the government provided the weaponry. and they didn't even -- they could have put gps in these things and tracked them down. >> we have weaponry in afghanistan. >> sean: they found e-mails with the words "fast and furious" in them. holder's claim is that wasn't about the "fast and furious." >> the fact that this man was the top cop in the country, supposed to be the competent attorney general, incompetent or contempt. you can't have it both ways. lannie brewer made it clear.