in schools. he has written a wonderful book called "my life" without god." joining me is the chairman of the religious freedom coalition william murray. when i see some of these pictures i remember all of this going on back when your mother was sort of in her heyday and she was a reviled woman because she offended the sensitivities and sensibilities of so many god fearing americans. did you growing up feel like, gee, people hate my mother and therefore hate me. did that upset you or did you wear it as a badge of courage at the time? >> our family was definitely different. that is putting it mildly. >> we did. we were different. as you said my mother attempted to detefect to the soviet union. she was a marxist leader in the community. our neighborhood was for the most part immigrants from many of those communist countries from poland, hung gary east