dean bakay, who is the national editor, said -- he used the word mission. he said we're on a mission examine we're going to continue to tell this story. he just doubled down and defended his reporters and said these are not leaks. this represents quote, unquote, tons and tons of reporting. that's a rather precious summary of what these stories have said. and the ones that we're talking about specifically are, of course, are david sanger's piece on the cyber attack in iran and the kill list that obama is supposed to have to shoot down drones and he signs off on it personally. that was done by scott chain in the paper. no book attached yet, but i bet that will come. then, of course, the u.s. drones. >> gregg: you're not arguing that the newspapers were wrong in publishing this information, nor the authors, are you? >> i'm not -- yes, i am.