to ask which president. the strategic goal i think is the same. the tactical issues are really what's at issue. jon: all right. so is there going to be some big meeting, gretchen, between these two camps to say, okay from now on mr. clinton you can only say this? >> you know, like i said he is a former president, he is not going to be a parrot for anybody. he's not just going to go out there and read off a bunch of talking points. owe has his own ideas on policies, he's a big thinker and he's been on record about these taxes before. let's look back at when we were here two years a it does seem like groundhogs day when we were talking about the taxes and them expiring two years ago. the president said -- president clinton said i would not raise taxes at a time like this. in these economic times and i don't think this is him straying too far off the message and the stances he's taken. for him to not standby his words is not -- him not being genuine and him not, you know,