>> it very well could be, that's why we have the whistle blowers. they can be heros or goats, they can risk their lives and careers to violate a rule or law but sometimes the greater good comes about as a result of what they do. jon: you would agree that eric holder's justice department is in a bit more trouble, a bit more hot water right now as a result of the disclosure of this wiretap information. >> i woman. and it seems to be that way, jon every time he goes up there to testify. jon: judge, thank you. we will listen in now to eric holder's testimony on capitol hill. >> before brian terry was gunned down these wiretap applications, which we did not subpoena, but which were given to us by a furious group of whistle blowers that are tired of your stonewalling indicate that a number of key individuals in your administration in fact were responsible for information contained in here that clearly shows that the tactics of fast