two times, who had a sitting governor, sitting president -- his sons, and he always wells up when he thinks about that. >> it's true. but they're a very close family. >> yeah. >> sean: you tell a great story, and this is in the documentary about how you met and became friends because it was a profile and courage and principle for the soon to be president, somebody you said you knew would be president. >> we have known each other 47, 48 years. i have a home in kenny bunkport. my wife came from there and she knew the president -- they were kids, played together. and i -- when i got there, i went to the tennis club and i tried to play tennis at the club. i signed my name -- on the roster. they said, what kind of a name is that. i said, what do you mean, what