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>> greta: i understand the big picture with what collective bargaining does. the question was a little more directed and you talk about safety and firefighters. as i understand it correct me if i'm wrong the new provision in the collective bargaining exempted firefighters and police officers so we are talking about other public workers is that right, sir? >> we are exempt from act 10 in its current form but we are hit by state aid. i was in ba loit, wisconsin, just yesterday. they had to lay off five firefighters because of cut in state aid to that municipality. it does affect us and the cuts that scott walker is mountaining in place does affect fire and police and in turn affects public safety. >> greta: when governor walker took office he had a $3.6 billion budget deficit he had to deal with and by the constitution or by law in the state of wisconsin the governor has to submit a balanced budget. the legislature has to balance the budget. if this were a year ago and you were the lieutenant governor working with a democratic

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