big role in the administration and she and obama started talking how he should redecorate the lincoln bedroom for guests and who the guest list should be be for parties and how he should handle his communication strategy and when mrs. obama, michelle obama and her closest friend in the white house, valerie jarrett heard about that, they got very upset, because they thought oprah was horning in and acting like she was the first lady and decided to freeze her out. when oprah offered to do an oprah winfrey show to launch mrs. obama's anti-obesity campaign, michelle held a meeting and said i don't want some fat, rich woman being the emblem of my campaign. >> mike: wow. >> you know what, oprah? i want to tell you, sweetheart. you endorsed the wrong person four years ago, should have been me.