killed. in this situation he feels like maybe they are confined, maybe this is just not the right place to have a human a a killer whale interact directly. jon: here is the deal. there are drivers who have died in indy races, that are drivers who have died in nascar races. there are drivers who have died in horse races. are you going to say that you have to remove the element of danger from all human entertainment? >> i think that is a great point, it's a great point. i think here what the judge was doing was balancing, an was saying, can we still have the show and have that barrier? is it possible? the show will be different, absolutely. obviously the trainer won't be physically interacting with the whale. apparently seaworld can conduct the show where the whales are going to jump and the trainer will be outside. it will be a different show. jon: why don't we have a judge issue an order that no indy race could go faster than 70 miles an hour and i bet you would stop all the carnage there. risk is part of the eve