[applause] we have a full screen that show this is pretty remarkable trend. that shows that 16 percent of seniors voting in 2004-2008 and non-president year that jumped up to 21 percent. pat you are a national spokesman of group called 60 plus. kind of alternative to aarp. >> conservative alternative yes. >> what are you sensing among senior adults. why would they change what has been somewhat of a historic vote rely bring for democrat contract. >> well for one thing most vote i think doug will attest to this show that seniors by a bi big, big margin don't like obama care. they are not for it. and 60 plus, 7.2 million supporters, 60 plus, are determined that they are not going to be saddled with that obama care. they are really worried about things like what was called the death panel and whether that tack proper characterization or not it's 15 non-elected people appointed by