at lower cost, and they're being forced to do smaller and smaller operations at greater risk, and that's a win. that's why things are better today than they were ten years ago. jamie: all right. jim walsh's report card on that, but we have a lot more to ask you, jim, so i'm going to ask you to stick around. >> absolutely. jon: let's get to a little news that new mothers will want to know about. new research challenges what many believe, many new moms believe, about giving their children pacifiers. for years parents thought, you know, the so-called binky could interfere with breast-feeding. now a new study suggests pacifiers actually can help with nursing. dr. leland ochre is assistant professor at lsu shreveport, and she joins us now. it's my understanding we have a picture of your little son max with his binky, so even the doctor uses them, right? >> oh, yeah. i'm a big pacifier pro.