president's permission or harry reid's permission. you don't have to ask the government for permission . this is government going after law-abiding producers and people who want to create energy. >> julian one of the thing epa is the issue of fraking. they haven't found violation from companies but the companies have been investigated. do you think they are going down the wrong path. they should support the production of natural gas or oil. >> i don't think that enforcing the environmental laws whether you are talking about the pipe line and there were environmental issues in key stone . fraking, making sure they comply and as i point out. no one responds to the fact