illusion that this was going to pass on capitol hill. and he talked about quite a bit. it has been a major talking point for him in recent weeks. so what's the real goal here? >> i think it gets down to this. he argues that, really gets down to the question, does supply-side econmics should it rule which the republicans believe in? that tax cuts stimulate jobs and make the economy better. or do you buy the democratic position that you need to have more keynesian government controls in the sense of trying to get more education for people so they get up to speed on new jobs? i think the president said it best this is not about income distribution. this is about growth. now that will be a fun fun question. and it may be that they don't accept that, the people. but that's what it boils down to. supply side versus keynesian as far as i'm concerned. martha: i don't know how much growth you get, when you look at this, $4.7 billion you would bring into