>> wait a second. mary katharine. >> there are things that are distractions, juan. and the amount of coverage that certain things are getting, like we wouldn't be talking about having a national conversation about augusta national's policies or some of these other issues. >> can i make a point to you? look, i think both sides have some culpability here. when you hear republics in the midst of their primary talking about the food stamp president, talking about black kids don't have a good work ethic. when you have such high unemployment among black kids. i think a lot of that white racial anger. >> laura: mary cath rib and juan, you both chime in. is racism at the heart of our economic decline in the country? con fafs, will that do a single thing to employ another young male in the united states. >> no. if i'm hispanic and you are