recall campaigns. this is the third. if it's successful. the only other one that us remember is gray davis in california. similar situation in some ways. they had a huge horrible budget deficit. he made, he tried to address it through a variety of ways, including the vehicle licensing fee that people really flip out about. and recalled. of course, the difference there was that the other side was able to get charismatic figure to collectively get behind, of course, arnold schwarzenegger. democrats in this particular situation have not been able to do that. russ feingold said no. they wanted him to do it. it's interesting comparison. if they fall short it might be because they haven't found a champion identify to believe everybody. >> bret: charles? >> the democrats are deciding right now is whether they want this to be a single issue campaign, or whether they want it to be a judgment about the governor, broader judgment.