means they believe in the bible, the community of judaism, but they believe as mark had indicated that jesus was a prophet, but not anything beyond that. if somebody wants to be a christian, they have to believe that jesus was divine, that he was god and so, those jews who say they have the sympathy for jesus are really saying, in my estimation, that they are admiring his prophesy, his teaching ability, but not actually making an act of faith in his divinity and therefore are not christian. >> for judaism we don't need somebody to atone for our sin, we don't believe in original sin, we believe that each individual person can and must atone to their sins directly to god. >> tom and i are best friends and we've been working