you have a nice quality. and market without much other product on the market and you can do well in an auction situation. >> of course, the show takes place out of gloucester, massachusetts and famous, famous town of hundreds of fishermen lost tear lives, made famous by the show "the perfect storm" and the ship went down and you look at the people before you and you had a ship wreck in 2003. it has to be on your mind. >> yeah, you think about it. it's there, but you don't dwell on it. because, you know, even like when i lost at that boat in 2003. we sank 20 miles out on the way home from fishing, it's like my father asked me, he said, you know, you lost the boat now, and are you going to get out of the fishing business? and i put it to him. look, dad. if the insurance, god forbid if the building caught on fire and burned to the ground and everybody get out, okay, would you get out of the insurance business? you know, of course not.