yet. obviously more ticks up more behavioral changes we'll see. >> i talked to a client today, doing a segment. i asked hem them. they live in the midwest. has it changed your habits? she considers flying versus driving, a trip two or three hours, might be cheaper, more convenient to fly versus driving. that could change drastically the way people do their everyday life. if that number gets worse it will affect the economy. i hate to say it will affect the economy. one person less driving to the grocery store. hurts the grocery store and suppliers and trickles down. alisyn: completely different story in canada we want to ask you about. canada by end of the year doing away with the penny. is the penny going to become extinct even here? >> i think it is going to. i picked this penny up walking to my hallway in my apartment. it has been there for a week. nobody touched it. i walked out this morning. it was still there. i picked it up.