now deceased, but her estate is being sued. and now charla nash, the victim in all of this, is also trying to add the state of connecticut. kimberly, how can she get there? because normality -- normally the state has southern immunity. >> yes, she has to appeal to the claims commission to say please allow me to bring this lawsuit because this is a just and equitable suit, and she can prove, in fact, proximate cause, that they had a duty to protect, that there was a failure with respect to duty to protect her -- megyn: but how? those are all generalities. what's her argument in this case? >> that they knew, in fact, this chimp pose add substantial risk, there's a history of previous attacks. she herself was attacked, obviously, in 2009. there was an attack where the chimp got loose in 2003, so they were aware of the fact that this was a large, substantial animal, 200-pound, male chimpanzee, and, there was, there's internal