and i mean dismantle it. >> chris: the congressional budget office seas under your plan by 2030, average government spending on each new medicare enrollee would be $2,000 less than the status quo. wouldn't you just factually wouldn't you make seniors pay more for medicare and healthcare than they do now. >> medicare grows at the same right under obama's budget as it does under our budget. the president's healthcare law puts 15 bureaucrats in charge of medicare and we put 50 million seniors in charge of their medicare. he is putting pure bureaucrats in charge of price controlling which leads to denied care for seniors. we are saying stop putting the rationing board in control of senior healthcare. don't change ben about fits for any one in or near retirement. to make good on the promise you