you draw the line? for example in the health care law as the health care law has been allowed to marinate a little bit. people warmed up to portions of the law even if they're still divided about the big part of a mandate overall. where is the line? seems like a very thin line but an important one? >> we need the ability to say let's figure out if this regulation would actually change behavior or would actually work. we rarely do a cost benefit analysis on these things. when it comes to the menu things and the calories, even liberal advocates for those laws have not yet been able to find any study that shows it changes people's decision-making process. same thing with cell phones not in the car and various states that. wrecks numbers have not gone down, studies have been made. you're trading freedom from a regulation not keeping you safe. jenna: juan, what do you think about that? >> i just hadn't heard that. in fact i thought the department of transportation was cracking down on texting and talking on the phone while you're driving because