every state we keep saying, oh, this state's a game changer. i really do think this time that illinois is probably a game changer because i think if newt can't win there, what is the point of staying in. >> shannon: he and ron paul continue to pick up delegates if they are not outright winning. >> busure. but look at the math. there is just no way. i can't imagine how newt can catch up. >> shannon: he has talked about santorum getting out f. santorrum walks away, there is a 25-point gap between romney and gingrich. gingrich has said if santorum drops out, they will coalesce behind me i i felt, but it's ony a 24-point gap. so if newt doesn't have an amazing showing, what is his argument for staying in. >> this week, there is no none. he didn't have one after losing mississippi and alabama. his rationale is gone. but santorum makes the case, i would run stronger.