playing here. private economy is three-quarters of the american economy and that's where you get the most movement toward jobs . psychology people who run the private economy, if government encroaches on their business. they go in a deep freeze. if you start laying people off which is the same thing the private economy had to in the last few years. you elevate animal spirits and get hiring. >> how do we make sure people fired in government are ones pushing paper and not creating business or substantive for the department. >> when the agriculture department has higher budget than foreign incomes. it is true. depending on the cycle. it is a matter of time when you have more burrcrats in the