>> uncle thanks. >> gregg: lord! all right. you -- you guys had a vigorous debate on who should be the v.p. pick, obviously, depends on the nom niche but somebody who can help the ticket. you didn't get to weigh in on that. >> no. my pick would be mitch daniel, my governor from indiana. he is pro business and he has done a great job in the state. i like the double business guy team. a lot of people are like, he doesn't have the charisma, but we need substance. so the m&m ticket. >> gregg: not bad. >> how about a girl, a woman, a lady. there are plenty? >> there are. i think that the republican establishment is going to sit down with this nominee and say, we have to have either a female or a person of color. things are so dire for them with women voters and from an immigration standpoint, where we saw the fox news latino poll a