>> well, we're surrounded by them. lazy people looking for the easy way out. >> we're not talking about the crew. >> no, no. >> hey! >> our next guest is sick and tired of it, though, and he has a solution. >> all right. he is the author of this book "take the stairs" a "new york times" bestseller. what's the point, take the stairs? get off the elevator and escalator, is that it? >> yeah, it is. we're in such not escalator mentality world, looking for the short cut and easy way. i think what we discovered really in our work at southwestern consulting, that successful people do the things they know they should be doing even when they don't feel like doing them. i.e. take the stairs. >> or going to that workout when you're dead tired, right? so talk about sacrifice, that's your first point. >> yeah, absolutely. i think what's really empowering about the whole dynamic of