to ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell along with steffen fitch and charlie gasperino, charles payne, what do you make of it? >> it's outrageous, and no one speaks about the outrageous aspect, the big communal pot of money and the people who take the most out are those who put hardly anything in there, or nothing in there. and i don't understand the notion ever being fair. and the lion's share, whether it's some dependency program or the police departments, always in your neighborhood. the fire department's always in your neighborhood. and youth services is always in your neighborhood. you're taking all the resources out of the pot and putting nothing this and yet, every day the president is browbeating those who put everything in the pot, i don't get it. >> neil: you're not a fan. dagen? >> we should point out that people do pay payroll taxes update. >> neil: absolutely. >> taxes and other-- >> join the club to everybody.