>> welcome back to the five. last week we talked about a school in ohio. i'm pretty sure it's a charter school. they were using privately donated dollars, private dollars, to pay kids to go to school and said it was working. we have the opposite situation with charter schools in chicago, the noble street college prep, where they're doing something that one of these -- a professor commenting on it from rutgers said was financial torture from medieval times. they're charging students to demerits, chewing gum to talking out of class or disruptive behavior. rahm emanuel said you can't argue with success.