political candidates. do they, media matters, fit that desks in do they coordinate with the white house? >> well, the daily caller we have been doing an investigation all week long looking in and we have had numerous sources sources from ie and with the memos we know media matters has regular meetings with white house officials. anita dunn and valerie jarrett. getting the message they want out for the media great relationships with msnbc and reporters at places like the "the washington post" and politico. but, you know, it goes -- that's why a lot of people are saying should taxpayers officially be subsidizing media matters. >> give us a back story on the two folks. one you mentioned david broke the founder of media matters. the other is kathleen kennedy who is behind this american bridges super pac. what's the back story between these two? >> kathleen kennedy townsend was put in charge by david broke of american bridge when it started a couple years ago.