and to the degree that republican social conservatives are upset about it. one would figure that they might see rick santorum more than gingrich or romney as their champion on this issue. i don't think it's just about birth control. i think this controversy is about government intrusion. there are a lot of people who aren't catholics who are very upset about this because they think the government shouldn't be in the business of telling anybody, in any religion what they have to do. and so it becomes a question of government limits, or government intrusion in the lives of institutions, or of people. jon: apparently the administration has been warned even by some of its own members, supposedly vice president joe biden. richard daley, the former chief of staff of the white house has said to the president, or the president's people that this is going to be seen as a real problem among catholics. >> that's right. again i think it's more than just catholics.