he claims are different than what he said. i factuallily represented his issues and they are different than my. the mud wrestling i talked about is the personal attacks on newt working for freddie and fanny or mitt romney having, you know, having companies that went under. and, look, people are allowed to go out and make their money and neither of them have been accused of anything unethical in the work that they did in the private sector. but to bring that up as if somehow or another this taints you, and to be so personal and nasty about it. and, you know. >> you think they both have crossed the line? >> i think they crossed the line because they gave the impression that was this somehow, you know, seedy behavior, it's unbecoming of someone who wants to be president and because you owned a company and it went under you don't care about people or you went out and helped a company