are politically protecting themselves? >> no. i think almost every state in the country, the establishment is not going to take a big risk on newt gingrich. go back and look at south carolina. you know, the governor was for mitt romney. all i had were people. well, look around this state. i mean, look at the size of the crowds. we have lots and lots of people. the question's going to be, can we generate enough people power to offset romney's money power? >> greta: and? >> i think we will. the history of america is that popular insurgency usually beat establishments particularly in a period where people are feeling pain and are angry and are going, why would i vote for him? >> greta: talk foreign policy. egypt is undergoing an incredible transformation. a lot of fear that it is not going to go our way. we have ray la hood, secretary of transportation's son, who cannot leave egypt. israel's worried about what